View Full Version : Kids In Las Vegas: Pros And Cons
Steve
03-06-2006, 08:31 AM
Then "Topic Of The Week" is:
How do you feel about kids in Las Vegas? You can give the pros and the cons.
Meng05
03-06-2006, 08:45 AM
The first time I ever went to Vegas (1998), I took my 3 yr old daughter. Stayed at Bally's. I have never been back with kids. They tried to make it a family friendly destination. It isn't. People walking around hammered, the card snappers outside, people that have been up for 48 hours straight.... Just not an environment that is appropriate for kids. Even the so called family friendly resorts are not immune from the afore mentioned "problems". There is a reason they call gambling adult entertainment. And Vegas is a gambling mecca. I know I probably stepped on a lot of toes, but remeber, I have 3 kids and love Vegas. I would not take them again........at least not until they're 21. :)
LetItRide
03-06-2006, 08:48 AM
I first would like to say that I have 3 kids (my youngest is now 16), but when they were young they all went to Vegas and had a good time. That said, I would like to say that I enjoy the fact that Vegas casinos are the one place I can go where I don't hear whiny screaming kids. You hear them at all of the malls, restaurants and stores. I completely enjoy being able to have adult conversation and adult themes without worrying about kids. I think Vegas' push to make it a "family" place has pretty much failed. Especially since they took out Wet 'n Wild. Let the families go to Disneyworld. Vegas is for grownups. :)
canthpern
03-06-2006, 08:58 AM
It depends on what you want from your vacation. If you want to stay out late and gamble, leave the kids at home. If you want to hike, go to the dam etc....bring the kids. There are a lot of things off strip for the kids to do. There are a lot of things on strip for the kids to do and see too. Just do your homework on what is available and what your child can tolerate.
josney54
03-06-2006, 09:01 AM
i vote NO
i go there to have a relaxing time and have a few drinks and chill.last time i was there i stayed at the hilton and when we went in the pool we were in the middle of kids everywhere.. if the hotels want kids then make an area where they can go and let us have a quiet time. when i stayed at Mandalay Bay it was the same thing, kids screaming and running and it was awful, i agree go see mickey mouse with the kids let us grownups have our place to play.
LINDABO
03-06-2006, 09:05 AM
No, I don't think that's the place for them. I stayed at the Excalibur a few times and there were a lot of them there, although I noticed on my last few trips there are not as many as there used to be. I am from upstate New York and have gone to the Saratoga Race Track many times and they are all over the place there. There is nothing worse than seeing the parents placing their bets at the windows and holding their child or having their kid standing in line with them.
Take them to Disneyland instead!
Las Vegas is a place for adults over the age of 21. Porn "slappers", folks getting hammered 24 hours a day, gambling, "adult" oriented clubs and shows make Vegas a no-go for kids.... and one of my favorite places in the world.:D Just about every bad experience I've had on my trips to LV has involved someone elses kids, screaming in restaurants, having strollers run over you at 3am, etc... Parents, esp of small children, should seek a better vacation destination. Teenagers will be frustrated at NOT being able to go anywhere, as I was on my first visit to LV at age 15 in '76. Seeing the fun and not being able to participate was a bummer and a half for me then. :eek:
divefl
03-06-2006, 09:22 AM
I went when I was twelve for a Aunt's wedding. My parents had the foresight to stay at Circus Circus. Even coming from that history, I say unless you are willing to stay at a Circus Circus, Excalibur or non casino hotel, leave them home. Having a pool alone does not make a hotel a kid friendly hotel. Even when I was there as a child I was still bored. The fairway can only amuse so long and I knew that more interesting things were happening in the casino...the one place I could not go. It is selffish to take the kids along then go off all day and expect them to amuse themselves. If you are going to Nevada to hike, stay at the grand canyon. If you are going on a family vacation, go somewhere that is actually geared for the age group of kids you have.
Vegas is marketing itself as a "One night stand, drink and smoke all weekend, admit nothing when you get home" type of place. Take a hint. You wouldn't take them to a strip joint for the weekend, how are things different when all that is added are machines with blinking lights?
dmacw
03-06-2006, 09:32 AM
No, No, No. Vegas is the Disney World for Adults. Please take the kids to Florida. Nothing frustrates me more then strollers and buggies squeezing along the crowded areas in Vegas. Please leave them home or take them elsewhere.
Janine926
03-06-2006, 09:41 AM
I went to Vegas the first time when my son was less than 2 yrs. old. We left him with his grandma. I now have a 4 year old daughter and my son is 6. We have been to Vegas 7 times now and never took our children. We love to gamble, drink and go to adult shows. I do feel like my kids would love Vegas but we would need to do a different kind of trip obviously. There are many things there they would love, even staying in a hotel is fun for them but I can't bring myself to bring them, selfish I guess because my reasons are not because I don't think they belong there. My reasons are that I need a break once per year. It doesn't bother me when I see children in Vegas but I admit to seeing many that didn't seem very happy. We take them to the beach instead every year but they are fasinated when they see pictures of Vegas and would love to go. We may end up taking them sometime but I doubt it.
HeyNow
03-06-2006, 09:41 AM
I have a 6 year old daughter that I'll bring to Vegas when she is 21. I can't even imagine bringing her before that, what would she do?
I never get annoyed by kids in Vegas, or really anywhere. Kids don't know any better, they're just being kids. I just don't understand the decision making process that leads to parents bringing their kids to Vegas.
It can't be worth paying for a plane ticket for kids. Any kid over 13 is going to be frustrated with not being able to do any of the fun adult stuff going on all around them. Kids 12 and under require almost constant supervision, to me that seems like it would ruin the trip for parents.
Green Chip
03-06-2006, 09:43 AM
This has been and always will be a touchy subject. Personally, I wish there were no kids in Vegas. But some of us have kids and sometimes we must take the whole crew when we go out of town. My son, age 12, has been to Vegas twice. When asked where he wants to go on vacation, his first answer is ALWAYS Vegas. He loves it there. We do family stuff during the day and I gamble at night. The wife will sometimes join me gambling if our son is with other family members. It works for us.
Think about it. If you vacationed twice a year, your spouse really doesn't gamble much and would prefer a beach, wouldn't you suck it up and take the kids to Vegas?
Sipsey
03-06-2006, 09:48 AM
In general, I agree with the above sentiments. Once I was at the Gold Coast around 3 AM getting something to eat in the snack bar before I finally turned in for the night, and there was a bunch of Hispanic kids sitting in there, doing nothing, evidently waiting for their parents to retrieve them. The oldest looked to be about 15. I think the youngest may have been asleep on the floor. They looked bored as heck, as well they might. That borders on child abuse, in my opinion.
But, my granddaughter's other grandparents took her in December and she had a great time. The key is, they planned it so that they went a lots of places she could enjoy, shopping, Circus-circus, etc. Certainly they never left her to her own devices. It depends on how you do it, you must put the children's interests first and if there's any time left you can go gamble. Which they did.
I have been around Vegas message boards for a number of years and this topic has been brought up a number of times. Often, it gets ugly. I'm glad to see it's being discussed sensibly here.
divefl
03-06-2006, 09:49 AM
"Think about it. If you vacationed twice a year, your spouse really doesn't gamble much and would prefer a beach, wouldn't you suck it up and take the kids to Vegas?"[/QUOTE]
What exactly are you sucking up? Sounds like they would be much happier at the beach and are only in Vegas for you.
accobend
03-06-2006, 09:53 AM
I know vegas is being promoted as a family destination, so naturally families are going to go. I wish casinos would enforce the policies of no children on the casino floor, period. I know they have to eat, but that is the casinos problem to organize their properties so we dont have to put up with brats, strollers, etc. while smoking, drinking and swearing. I don't want to have to feel bad that children are witnessing my leisure behavior and I have every right to enjoy myself without them around.
Also, it's terrible to see the young kids out after hours, being dragged along the strip with their parents. They should be off the street, the strip at night is no place for a child.
For these problems with the children, I totally blame the parents. They are making bad choices, are inconsiderate and irresponsible.
Chiefsscott
03-06-2006, 09:56 AM
I have a 5 year old and I dont plan on taking him until he is 21. Vegas is usually a time for me and the wife to get to know each other again, as well as have fun consuming some adult beverages.
mamatee
03-06-2006, 10:05 AM
My husband and I will not take our kids to Vegas until they are 21. They are 9 and 10 and they know that when we go to Vegas, it's an adult vacation. I don't want to take my kids to a place that is geared toward adults. I teach and it's nice to get away from kids - mine and theirs. It is nice to be able to stay out late, sleep in late and feel free to stop into any casino I want whenever I want. I also don't want my 9 and 10 year old to have to see the "sights" that Vegas has to offer. We live in a small community by choice and I don't want my son to pick up a card from a gentlemans club and wonder what it's for. Remember that what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas unless you take your kids. Then, it gets told at the most inopportune moments.
I know that Vegas tried, in vain, to make it a more family friendly environment. I also know that it didn't work. The reason it didn't work is because people didn't want to bring their kids. It is an adult playground. If you feel you need to take your children, please be responsible with them. I'm sure that it can be an enjoyable and memorable experience with your kids if you plan accordingly but for me, there is nothing worse than trying to get away from it all only to see parents dragging their kids around at all hours of the night when they should be sleeping. Also, remember that they are KIDS! They are going to be bored if measures aren't taken to entertain them. Take them on a vacation that they will enjoy and then reward yourselves with a "mom and dad" vacation later. Everyone needs that!;)
sonntex
03-06-2006, 10:56 AM
We have 3 children and never took them to Vegas until they were 21+. They didn't suffer from it and now really enjoy getting to go with or without us. They think it was worth the wait.
leighw55
03-06-2006, 11:20 AM
Last April over spring break we took our 16 year old daughter,and our 12 year old and 9 year old sons. My daughter had a really good time and she especially enjoyed the shopping. The boys on the other hand - if we were not spending $100 an hour on video games in the arcades then they were not happy. They could have cared less about all the pretty buildings, the fountains at the Bellagio, or the light show on Fremont Street. I say if you are going to take your kids to Vegas, wait until they are old enough to appreciate it. For those of you who do decide to take your kids, I think Old Vegas is a better atmosphere for them. No one is passing out porno flyers down there. That's just up on the strip. I saw less hooker looking women downtown also. It just seems more family friendly in the downtown area and it is easier to keep track of them and not loose them because the area is smaller. Like my husband said, we would take our daughter again with one of her friends, but not the boys, at least not until they are older.
YSinAppleton
03-06-2006, 11:28 AM
I have five children, all pretty much grown now, but would never have taken them to Vegas until they were 21. It is an adult playground. Even though some of the casinos try to make it family friendly, it is not!! Now that my children are grown and over 21, we have a mother/daughter/sister etc. week in Vegas every April and love every minute of it. I love children, but do not want to see them in Vegas. Parents need to vacation at Disneyland, Disneyworld, or take them to theme parks for children. Those are family vacations - Vegas is not!! They do not belong in Vegas at any age no matter what they enjoy - at least that is my opinion.
GREGRIO
03-06-2006, 11:34 AM
The kids don't bother me...it's their parents that let them
run unchecked that bother me.
tiggypooo
03-06-2006, 11:38 AM
Over 21 fine....under 21 not fine
wiley
03-06-2006, 11:53 AM
We didn't have the opportunity to go to Vegas until our kinds were grown and on their own. (They have both been there themselves since then.)
I don't think Vegas (or AC for that matter) is an appropriate place to bring children. It's not fair to the kids and it's not fair to the parents. There are so many family-oriented vacations available and the kids grow up so fast - just my opinion.
Marla Chi-to-Houston
03-06-2006, 11:54 AM
I brought my 3 girls once for the Y2K (2000) Xmas thru NewYears', though there was no problem other than they kept me broke, rather than the machines, I have not done it since. They enjoyed themselves, and I enjoyed them, but since I have been going since 1981 (I think), I feel it's my vacation away from my kids! This year my oldest turns 21, and she and three other friends will make their first "adult" trip, but my 15 and 16 year old will not be going until they are of age.
Kids during the day, enjoying family time in Vegas do not bother me. But late at night, crying screaming, tired children, break my heart--as the responsibility lies with the adults!
Lori R
03-06-2006, 12:25 PM
Well, I don't have children and so I guess it's pretty obvious that I will submit a nay vote here. I find it rather distressing to walk down the strip at late hours (midnight or so) and finding myself having to navigate the stroller slalom (I find that people pushing strollers are not walking with any appreciable amount of alacrity). The worst part is that the kids are asleep in their strollers. There are certain hours where one should expect children to be in bed, sleeping, as opposed to being out on the street. I guess that, during the day, I don't have any strenuous objections but, after 8PM, get them off the street.
This is my main objection to NYNY. There is one main walkway there between elevators and the casino and it gets bottlenecked with kids and strollers.
talanhart
03-06-2006, 12:29 PM
If parents didn't take their kids to Vegas how would they become addicted to the place like I did back in 1972.
Thanks MOM!
Years ago we brought our 1 year and 2 year old children with us , but we also brought our own baby sitter. I have to agree with most everyone Las Vegas is not for kids
Years ago we brought our 1 year and 2 year old children with us , but we also brought our own baby sitter. I have to agree with most everyone Las Vegas is not for kids
It is better to be a small winner than to be a big loser!
Kids do not belong in Las Vegas.......period!!:mad:
hhalligan
03-06-2006, 01:21 PM
The best vacation I ever had in Vegas was with my 7 children and their significant others. All over 21 and able to enjoy eveything that is fun. They all had a great:p time and many have been back for more. 21 and over is my vote.
chris5984
03-06-2006, 01:31 PM
The kids don't bother me...it's their parents that let them
run unchecked that bother me.
GREGRIO hit the nail on the head. :D
emtcater
03-06-2006, 01:40 PM
Add my vote to the "hell no" column please.
Like most others, I don't think our city is the place for kids, at least not the tourists. Just not appropriate.
iam4nd
03-06-2006, 01:44 PM
Kids really don't bother us as long as their parents are keeping them in check. And that's the same in Vegas as well as the Applebee's restaurant at home. There are some websites available with kid friendly ideas and activities in Las Vegas for those that do bring children.
http://www.lasvegaskids.net/
http://www.kidsinvegas.com/las-vegas-kids.htm
http://www.ldcm.org/
http://www.travel2vegas.com/childcare.html
tryon4
03-06-2006, 01:53 PM
Take them to Disneyland instead!
At one of the shows we attended at The Comedy Stop we heard the following line,
"You don't bring your kids to Vegas.................I won't bring the LADIES to Disney World".
Actually it is not the kids that bother me it is the unattended kids that bother me. But they would bother me in Houston or Detroit or little old Tilton, New Hampshire.
canunow
03-06-2006, 02:22 PM
My youngest turns 21, December 30th we are planning a surprise trip to Vegas for his big day. Can you imagine a better place to finally turn 21?
We decided long ago that our kids would not come to Vegas with us until they were old enough to enjoy everything Vegas has to offer. Honestly we didn't want to miss anything ourselves and bringing kids along would just slow us down!
Any suggestions on how to find cheap rates for the end of the year? Geez, do they hike up the charges for flights and hotels.
lush702
03-06-2006, 02:28 PM
i've been tempted to - but have consulted friends and the wife --- decision is no. Fun @ the pools, sites, ..., but the ads on taxis, "adult" scene, and other makes me agree --- they are 10 YO girls --- I'll take them in 10-15 years, but it'll be a different place (guaranteed!).
Adult playground for now.
togabill
03-06-2006, 02:39 PM
No Way - Wouldn't think of it. They don't belong there. When I see these poor kids hanging over their strollers, asleep I just want to smack the parents. Can't be much fun for either.
We have 3 daughters and wouldn't consider taking them under age. In addition to there not being much for them to do, it would definitely cramp our style.
However - This May my youngest turns 21. We're taking the 3 of them out in June for the first time. But they will be 21, 24, 27.
cuzznhat55
03-06-2006, 02:57 PM
My husband & I have been going to Las Vegas for over 25 years & agree kids should not be in Las Vegas but...... we organized a family reunion that took place last August & stayed at the Orleans. There were 19 adults & 6 kids ranging from 5-11. Everyone had a blast & we are doing it again this coming August!! Yes, I thought there would be problems but everything was very organized, the kids were great, the parents & one set of grandparents took their turns with the kids(with no complaints) when they were not in the Kids Center. They went to shows, they went bowling, played in the arcade, went all over the strip, went to the pool every day & had a great time. As far as the parents who had kids their stay ranged from 4 to 5 nights. The 8 & the two 11 year olds had a cell phone with them at all times & kept in contact(with their parents) even when they were in the presence of a parent not their own. The Orleans is a great place to play, especially if you are a video poker player(which we are) & considered "kid-friendly" which it is. As far as my husband & I are concerned there were alot of kids there & we didn't encounter any problems, thank god!!! Just in case anyone is looking to bring kids to the Orleans Kid Center be aware that the age limit is now 9 years old & not 12. Why they changed it after all these years I don't know. We just found this out when we booked our reservations. We were very lucky it all worked out and we are looking forward to the next trip! Good Luck!
NoRisk
03-06-2006, 03:14 PM
Vegas is not for kids.
Take them to Disney Land.
The only time parents should take their kids there is if the kids are over 90 (ninety). Then the kids can look after the parents.
Nevada
03-06-2006, 03:22 PM
No brainer. NO kid what nicer then hopping off plane leave mind to enjoy yourself not worry on were you kids are.:D
Mrs. PapaGeorgio
03-06-2006, 03:36 PM
Add another vote for no children in Vegas.
jo45an
03-06-2006, 03:42 PM
We took our two kids to Vegas in 1996, when they were 10 and 11 years old.
It was really a "kid-friendly" place to go! I didn't think that, even then, it was
a good idea to bring very young children who required strollers. Now, it's called "Sin City" for a reason... and kids are just not the "tourists of choice".
Perhaps Excalibur, MGM Grand or Circus Circus may be more family friendly Strip Hotels. I don't know much about the off Strip resorts. It sounds like the
adults who attended the family reunion were willing to share the babysitting
duties. Good for them! Now that my kids are young adults, they have no desire to go to Vegas! Oh, we did go back to Vegas 7 times for our vacations!
Now, they prefer New York!!!!!!!!!!!!
momviolett
03-06-2006, 04:00 PM
No kids untill they're 21.The Wynn has the right idea. On every door is posted no strollers allowed.They may not be able to keep children out but they sure can make it more difficult!
mturner
03-06-2006, 04:18 PM
i guess my question is , "why would you even plan a vac. in LV with kids?" All the fun stuff to do is not kid friendly and if you are doing it , where are the kids?"
but that's just me ( and the rest of the world )
sdjweinman
03-06-2006, 04:50 PM
I have been going to Vegas since I was 3 (39 years ago) and flew in to see my grandparents alone at age 6. I was fortunate enough to raise my children during the kid friendly stage of Vegas. As a family we really enjoyed going to the MGM theme park -- the kids (teenagers at the time) loved it!
But today, I'd leave them home! Vegas has changed back to an all adult scene. There is so little to do with the kids (except for the same things we can do at home (movies, shopping, etc.) that it just isn't worth it.
As a family, we looked forward to traveling to Vegas to see family and have fun! Now it is either all family, or all adult entertainment. I think Vegas should consider putting in some "family friendly" attractions -- but they don't have to be located in the prime "Strip" area which is probably the #1 reason MGM closed the park -- the land was too valuable for a kid thing. Areas out West by the new Red Rock Station or closer to the airport - Henderson area would be fabulous. Close enough for families to stay at with kids and things for the kids to do.
We also just got off a 7 day cruise to Mexico -- and they had a youth center and organized youth activities (at no extra cost) and provided a safe controlled environment (with properly trianed personnel) for young children so the adults could do adult stuff. If hotels offered youth centers, teen centers, etc. that provided the same atmosphere -- people would use them and the adults would stay and gamble at those locations. The centers usually give a localized pager to the parent -- to be able to notify them in case of emergency or problem (which keeps parents close by). Whether it was to go to a show or a fancier dinner or whatever without the kids -- it would be a great asset!
I don't expect Vegas to ever be a kid's choice for a destination -- but for families with kids -- it would be nice if they would take a little more consideration for these families. Everyone doesn't have the luxury or comfort level to leave their children at home when they travel. I am sure that the revenue created from the parents who would actually do something other than eat at a cheap buffet with their family would be significant.
My sister who has young children will often pay more to stay where the kids can have something to do without having to travel to other places.
I took my daughter with my dad and I when she was about 12. As it turned out, i spent more money keeping her entertained than I would have if it was just my dad and I gambling for the week!! I wouldn't leave her alone anywhere, so I did my gambling at night after dad was done, during the day we did all the kid friendly stuff, went to Circus Circus, NYNY, Hoover Dam, the Stratosphere tower, etc. saw Mystere, and spent lots of time by the pool. We stayed at Treasure Island at the time and she loved the carnival type arcade they had. She's 21 now so it's not a problem anymore! I do remember she had a blast though but I don't know if I'd do that again. There are better places to bring kids, IMO.
dbrown4510
03-06-2006, 05:10 PM
I agree that kids should not be in Vegas! There is nothing worse than paying for a vacation only to experience the same things you get at home for free (being run over by strollers, screaming whiney kids) and the "glares" from parents towing children as you are smoking a cigarette or uttering a word they wouldn't like the youngins' to overhear. Just about anywhere else on earth is overrun with kids, why can't adults have one place?????:confused:
Steve
03-06-2006, 05:14 PM
I have to disagree with the members say that Vegas is not for kids or leave the kids home. Let face it, there are plenty of things for the kids to do in Las Vegas.
Aside from the irresponsible parents that leave their kids unnatended, they really aren't that much of a bother. Eileen's kids love everything about Las Vegas. They have seen just about all the family oriented shows and love the buffets. They talk about where they will stay next and what shows they want to see.
I may be in the minority but the kids can have as good of a time as the ADULT kids. It all comes down to parental responsibility.
Steve
tryon4
03-06-2006, 05:51 PM
I have to disagree with the members say that Vegas is not for kids or leave the kids home. Let face it, there are plenty of things for the kids to do in Las Vegas.
Aside from the irresponsible parents that leave their kids unnatended, they really aren't that much of a bother. Eileen's kids love everything about Las Vegas. They have seen just about all the family oriented shows and love the buffets. They talk about where they will stay next and what shows they want to see.
I may be in the minority but the kids can have as good of a time as the ADULT kids. It all comes down to parental responsibility.
Steve
Don't blame the kids, blame the responsible adult. I work with "bad" kids each and every day and 98.999% of their behavior is learned by repeating behaviors they witness.
Tammy
03-06-2006, 06:41 PM
I will admit I have thought about it (my son is 9) but it is visibly evident its not a place for kids.
"Kids in Las Vegas: Pros and Cons. There are no "Pros" in this segment. What could kids possibly benefit from Las Vegas other than the many different cultures which is not a positive outlook in their eyes. It's wild. It's crazy. It's fun for us adults. It's a place for adults.
Hey Sweetie....... this year we are going to go to Las Vegas to look at all the pretty lights and we will go swimming and see a show.
I'm not against the kids. I'm for the kids.
Sorry.
Nedebpats
03-06-2006, 06:55 PM
I feel Vegas is for adults, all the times my hubby and I have gone to Las Vegas in the last 20 years we never took our minor children, now that they are of legal age, they love it.
If parents can be responsible to take care of their children, then kudos to them, I just hope we don't see any young ones in strollers on the strip late at night.
James
03-06-2006, 07:41 PM
considering vegas is the haven for smokers, and when a person holds a lit cigarette to the side of them it's at the eye level of a child, i say no.
i would drive out to vegas with friends before turning 21. there's plenty of stuff to do when you have a car. when you have the metabolism of an 18 year old, buffet hopping is a lot of fun.
i stopped in laughlin with my mom coming back from the grand canyon when i was 17, ironically, i lost more at the arcades than my mom did at the slots (you think i could have gotten some sodas comped). laughlin under 21 is boring. at least vegas has enough to stay occupied. sadly, i've been back to laughlin and have seen scads of kids trying to keep themselves occupied. i think for families on tight incomes, rooms in a fairly safe environment for $20 a night is the only deciding factor.
i think vegas for is fine for those 15-20 years old, as there's enough to see and do if you're only there for a couple of days. and once you get the touristy stuff done, you can focus on the gambling and drinking when you are 21.
meldodds
03-06-2006, 07:53 PM
Last time we were there we stayed downtown, at 2 am there where families on the street with 4-5 kids some were crying and begging to go to bed. I felt sorry for them.:( For heavens sake get a sitter or Mom and Dad take turns with the kids, but let them go to bed at their bed time and all will enjoy the trip much more! I would not take a small child to Las Vegas.
krisfarnsworth
03-06-2006, 09:08 PM
Well as a mom of twin 11 year old girls we go to vegas every easter. we don't go into the casinos we shop or visit other attractions like M& M world the fashion show mall the canal shops or the museums. We stay off the strip at night because of the card snappers. my girls would rather go to vegas then disneyland.
We'll be there this year april 13-17 so if you can't stand to see kids in vegas avoid the two adorable girl that always dress alike, they're mine
bdpreece
03-06-2006, 11:04 PM
:mad: It has been a few years now but we brought our teen age sons to Vegas with us and stayed at Circus Circus. While spending time in the kids area our youngest son was harassed by young blacks (we are white) for wearing a red baseball cap as if he was wearing gang colors. It was not a pleasant experience. I personally do not feel that Vegas is a place for any young people.:mad:
tlcrnicu
03-07-2006, 12:49 AM
We have family in LV, so if our grandchildren didn't go to Vegas, they would never, ever see their other set of Grandparents... (Staying with family is not an option, not enough space) That said, our grandson is very well behaved (10 y/o) and the grandaughter is not yet 2. It was a lovely vacation, BUT, we didn't gamble or do any adult pursuits. Went to Red Rock, Hoover Dam, Grand Canyon, plus lots of stuff on the strip. Also went to see Mystere. Also, the year our youngest daughter graduated from hig school, her gift (at her request) was a trip to LV. We were clear that she wouldn't be able to go to the casinos, etc, but that's what she wanted so off we went. She had saved a small fortune working as a waitress for the 2 years prior, and spent most of her time in the spa. She loved it..... We did a lot of sightseeing, and did a little gambling while she was in the spa, but we all had a blast that time.
We live near the casinos in CT and they don't cater to kids. We have many arrests though of parents who leave their kids in their cars or in their hotel rooms underage and unsupervised!
Sooooo, I guess my answere is dependant on whether or not the vacation is for you (gambling, adult pursuits) or if it's for the kids! And if you can balance the two with some safe child care that doesn't leave your children unsupervised in the pool or video game area.
Jacqui, Duskette8
03-07-2006, 01:08 AM
I don't think that Vegas is a place for kids for a couple of reasons:
1) the desert heat cannot be good for them. I've seen babies in prams with exposed skin... this isn't right;
2) the porn slappers, drunks, etc. Let kids be kids. Don't expose them to this level of this while they are children;
3) there are restrictions on the Strip for kids where they aren't allowed after 9pm or so. Their parents do not take heed of these signs. Note to these parents: These signs are there for your child's protection!
4) two girls that I work with were taken to Vegas as children and were bored. These girls are only 18 now so it wasn't in the days before Excalibur, etc. The children don't want to be there!
5) It is an adult town. It's not called Sin City for nothing.
I have no problem with kids and I'm sure that it's not their choice to sit bored in Vegas or dragged around casinos in extreme heat. Although I don't have any kids of my own, I am a second mother to my two nieces and two nephews but I would never dream of taking them to Vegas. It's just not the place for them. :(
Boston_Bill
03-07-2006, 04:37 AM
I vote no. It bugs me to even see strollers going through the lobby of the hotels. I understand parents cant leave kids at home but I just wouldnt take any kid under 16 to Vegas and 16 is being liberal
just4fun
03-07-2006, 05:01 AM
I have seen kids abaodonned at 1:00am while parents gambled at Ballys,and parents dragging three year olds down the strip at 2:30AM! Isn't this really child abuse? I think so.
I don't go to Disney World, it's a place for little ones,my children are older.
I have ,however,taken one son to Vegas for his 21st.And again when he was about to propose to his girl.Ironicly she knew a travel agent and got the names of a couple of younger friends who were there with parents. I was knocked out!! the youngsters aged 14 to 20 were having a party,sex, drugs and the kind of rock n' roll that oldsters don't like. I wanted to leave the wife and the young lovers to join this party because I missed out on the .debauchery of ancient Rome. If someone else told of this I would have called them a liar, but while we watched Mystere the teens lost their mystery.
PinkFloydActuary
03-07-2006, 06:23 AM
It feels like this question can be interpreted in two ways:
(1) Do you want kids around when you're in Vegas?
(2) Should kids be allowed to be in Vegas?
Like others, there are times I find the little ones annoying and wish they weren't there. However, I think I've had more issues with smelly, drunk, obnoxious adults than little kids in all my trips to Vegas.
I think kids in Vegas can be handled properly. The strip is relatively empty the first half of the day. There's plenty to see and do in that time without exposing the kids to too many vices. I know the town hosts a wedding or two a year, and sometimes the family wants to be there. There are a number of state and national parks in the area, and Vegas is a great place to fly into and find inexpensive lodging for the night.
Those people that drag their kids up and down the strip after hours or ditch them in an arcade to go gamble should be strung up. However, I see examples of this kind of crappy parenting no matter where I go. While the atmosphere in Vegas can exacerbate the situation, I don't say "Keep the kids out of Vegas", I say "Some people need to learn how to be better parents."
ertkst
03-07-2006, 06:51 AM
I did take my kids to Vegas when they were just 9 and 14. I took a friend's daughter who was 17 to watch them after hours. We had a fabulous time seeing many different shows, such as magic shows, the outside show at Treasure Island, Cirque du Soleil, etc. We all had a blast and my kids were back in the room by 9:30 - 10:00 pm which is the normal bed time for them at home also. I think that if you are taking kids with you then most of your time should be spent geared around them. I do go to Vegas a couple of times per year but I have only taken the kids once. They keep hounding me to let them go back but as I have said when you take them then most of your time should be spent with them. I like to gamble and if that is what my plans are for the trip then I will not take them to Vegas with me. It is better to plan a nongambling week with the kids.
cindyinnj
03-07-2006, 06:53 AM
WOW...this is definately a great topic! Parental control and age of children matters here! I can't see bringing toddlers or infants to LV! :confused: They can't enjoy LV like they can Disney so why bother bringing them? If you're that desperate to gamble, then leave the babies at home with a relative or friend! I have brought my 13 & 15 yr old daughters with me to Vegas, and they loved it. However, my hubby and I took turns going out, and when hubby and I planned on a night out alone, the girls stayed in the hotel room and we let them order room service and order a movie. No way were they allowed to wander without us! Nor did we gamble while they stood in the aisle's waiting for us like I've witnessed other parents doing! :eek: There are many things kids can do in Vegas (mostly during the day), but I feel late-nite should be left to the adults! Lack of parenting has ruined many family vacations in LV! So, again, parental control and age of children definately has an effect!
Vegas Queen
03-07-2006, 07:01 AM
NO, NO, NO, If not for the kids for the adults who pay a lot of money for a once a year vacation and want to get away from the kids. Vegas is for us, take the kids to Disneyland not to "Sin City".
lynb452
03-07-2006, 07:08 AM
I took my first trip to Vegas last month, with my 16 year old daughter. My son moved out to Vegas last May, so it was my chance to finally get there, and to see him. The only reason my daughter came was that it was a visit to see her brother. We went to Hoover Dam, the Titanic exhibit at the Tropicana, Tournament of Kings, Fremont Street....but otherwise she was bored, and spent a lot of time on her cell phone talking to friends back home. Because she is old enough to stay in the room, I was able to do a bit of gambling - in a way having her there kept me from doing too much! <g> But if my son wasn't there, my daughter would have stayed home.
Parental discretion is the key here - and there are many parents today who take their too young kids not just to Vegas, but to movies and theater when they should be left home - and nobody has a good time!
So I guess my basic feeling is that parents need to get a clue and pay more attention to their kids' needs rather than their own.
marmirdc
03-07-2006, 07:55 AM
I guess it depends on what you are coming to Vegas for. If you are headed there for a family function or just passing through, then its ok to bring your kids along. If you are going to Vegas for an Adult time, then kids need to stay at home. My wife and I go to Vegas at least 3 times a year. Our teenage kids always want us to take them(which we won't) unless we are headed there for a non-gaming reason. My wife isn't a big gambler either, she prefers the spas', pool, fine dining, so there are times I make it a "me" getaway and she stays home and I go out with friends/family and we are both very happy with that(she has gone out with the girls before and left us guys at home with the kids!). We like to go out to Vegas without our kids, its gives us some alone time to rekindle and renew that spark. We love kids, its but its also nice to have some adult time.
Mr and Mrs Keno
PoohRN1962
03-07-2006, 08:00 AM
The kids don't bother me...it's their parents that let them
run unchecked that bother me.
Oh, YEAH, Greg!
I don't mind kids, in general...in fact I have 2 of them (now ages 18 and 21.)
What I DO have a problem with is parents. If the kids are crying, screaming, running wild, it is up to the parents to handle it. I am not amused by them. I don't want your kids screaming in my ear when I am paying a fortune for a meal, or splashing me while I am napping poolside.
It's just common courtesy!
Vicki
babsie
03-07-2006, 08:30 AM
I took my 15 aqnd 16 year olds to Las Vegas and they had a ball. We stayed at Circus, Circus. I gave them $40 a day and a curfew and told them it included their food and entertainment. They loved the astrodome. We spent one afternoon touring the strip together but other than that, we were separated. Now when I go to Vegas (twice a year) they want to go with me.
I wouldn't recommend it for young kids because you have to keep a constant eye on them and you don't have time to gamble but for older kids, its a blast.
ChicChas
03-07-2006, 09:32 AM
At one point during my recent trip, I saw a young couple. One was pushing a double stroller through the crowds with two sleeping toddlers in it. The other was carrying an infant papoose style. I just wondered how much fun could they possibly be having.:confused:
Yo Eleven
03-07-2006, 10:46 AM
Take my kids to Vegas ? NO WAY.
I know I'm selfish, but to *me* Vegas is for adults. I drink, smoke, gamble and swear waaay too much when I am there. It's a vacation *away* from children. (At least I always assumed it was supposed to be an "adult" town.) My kids know that when Mom and Dad go to Vegas ( maybe once every 4 years ) it's a vacation for US, as a couple. I find it very romantic, even. ::clears throat::
( We *do* go on a family vacation the same year so my kids don't feel slighted.)
This year we will be going while my kids are at 4H camp, and none of us can wait for vacation week !
We *are* planning on having both the kids turn 21 in Vegas....they look forward to that,also. Makes the place even more special. But for now....a big fat NO. The porn, the hookers, the bums, the gambling,the pickpockets, you can't avoid it.....ewww,my children around that ?? No thanks. Last time I saw George Carlin at Bally's, even though there was a sign saying that children weren't permitted, someone actually brought their kid ! We were stunned.
Kids deserve better....they are only children a short time, after that,they have a lifetime to hang in Vegas ! At least that's my thinking.
Peace out.
Eileen
03-07-2006, 11:28 AM
When I go to Las Vegas with Steve it is a different kind of Vegas vacation than when I take the kids. Steve does not come with us because he can't go to Vegas and not be able to gamble. I respect his views. I don't mind it and I love showing my kids around. I see things in a totally new way with them.
My daughter will be 16 and my son will be 14 when we go in June or July this year. My son LOVES Las Vegas. My daughter likes it but can't wait until she can actually go IN the casino! The kids and I go once every two years and love this new tradition that we started 6 years ago. When I go with them it is not a gambling vacation for me. I had never even LOOKED at a pool until I took the kids. We have seen lots of things that I would not have done or seen with Steve such as The Shark Reef at Mandalay (wonderful!!), Siegfried and Roy's Magical Garden and even the flamingos and penguins at the Flamingo. We also visit with friends. They like the volcano, the water show and the light show downtown.
When I first took the kids, I told Steve that if any smut peddlers came near us he would have to come to Vegas to bail me out of jail for assault. But the peddlers always stayed away. The fact that they saw that crap on the sidewalks bothered me though. This is my biggest Vegas peeve.
The kids love Mac King and Ron Lucas and have to see them each visit. This summer they are looking forward to seeing Mystere and maybe Celine (ok, ok, so she's really for me...).
For me, Vegas is a much more affordable vacation. I tried looking into Disney. It costs a small fortune. I can go to Vegas twice for the same amount of money it would cost to go to Disney World once.
When I go with Steve, that's when I will have my drinks and gamble. And if anyone asks about a pool I'll say "they have a pool??".
When we walk through the casino that's exactly what we do - walk straight through. As it's been said before, it's the PARENTS who are at fault for the whiney, tired kids.
I understand the people who don't want kids in Vegas - if the kids are bothering them. When it is just Steve and me and I see kids loitering in the casino, it bugs me. But then again, I blame the parents. You have to go with a different mindset when you take the kids.
When my daughter is 21 she wants a Mom/Daughter trip and stay at the Bellagio. When my son is 21 he wants to stay at the Paris (he thinks they have the coolest bathrooms). THOSE trips will be a whole other story!
Eileen
Kids are OK if supervised by the parents.
But, my problems is with the stroolers. As walking room is at a premium, stroolers become a nusiance and because they are low to the ground, hard to detect until you are right up on them.
Does anyone else have this problem?
King of Kurtopia
03-07-2006, 12:07 PM
Rugrats-Las Vegas.....They just don't mix well. :eek:
Kurt
sonntex
03-07-2006, 12:08 PM
I'm a "no" voter, but if parents are responsible then kids can have a good time. My daughter and her husband want to take their two kids to Vegas. They are not big gamblers and keep the kids in check very well, so they can probably pull it off. If they can, then I say "more power to them".
But I hope they never suggest that we all go together. We love our grandkids, but in Vegas, they would cramp our style.
twofoxxy
03-07-2006, 01:57 PM
I can't imagine that young kids could have fun in Vegas, I would think they would be bored out of their minds.
We never took our own kids before they were 21, but have taken our granddaughter twice.
We did all the kid friendly stuff during the day. My daughter doesn't gamble(the slot machine gene musta skipped a generation), but she does have a friend that lives in Las Vegas, so we we able to take over for her a couple of nights, so she could enjoy a grown up dinner, and visit w/her friend.
I was really against taking kids to LV, for a long time. I so vididly remember my first trip, seeing hot, tired red faced little ones looking so miserable up and down the strip. But with a bit of planning it is possible, putting the needs of the kiddo first, just like you would for any family trip.
So, the pros are: a fun, family trip w/some planning
Cons: adult environment that we must take into account when planning to take a child.
Just my opinion, of course.
mcwuggles
03-07-2006, 05:54 PM
When I first went to Las Vegas, 12, I really enjoyed it, but I am not the typical kid. I wouldn't reccomend taking boys. I've been there 2 times since then.
jimearthangel
03-07-2006, 06:35 PM
Please take the kids to Disneyworld. Vegas is not now, nor has ever been a place for kids. Take them for their 21st birthday.
HedoTom
03-07-2006, 07:43 PM
While it will be several years before this becomes an issue for us again (our son is of legal age and our first grandchild will not arrive until this summer), some of our best vacation memories are of the times David went to Vegas with us. We took him with us once a year from the time he was 10 until he turned 16 (we took 2-3 other trips a year to Vegas without him during that timeframe). Vegas was his 3rd favorite vacation site (Disney was #2, any Carribean island was #1).
As Eileen pointed out, you don't do the same things when you take kids as when its an adults only vacation. However, this is not unique to Vegas vacations. A family vacation is different from an adult vacation no matter whether the vacation was Vegas, Chicago, New York, DC. The problem that many have talked about is that some parents don't treat a Vegas trip with kids as a family vacation, but rather just do what they want to do and hope the kids don't get into trouble.
When we did Vegas with David, normally one of us was always with him (the only time he was ever "alone" was if the arcade was within sight of where we were - as many also said, arcades were frequently more costly than gambling). Since my wife is not a big gambler, she frequently was with him while I gambled (e.g. pool time, horseback rides up the mountain, etc). We usually worked in a trip outside the city (e.g. Hoover Dam, Valley of Fire, Zion, etc). He was never bored with any of our trips and always wanted to go back.
Some of our favorite memories:
David getting to participate in a main showroom magic show (I forget the magician but it was a combination show with the Berosini chimps). An unexpected treat after giving the matre'd a decent tip for a center room table. Kind of thought something might be up when he made sure David sat in a specific seat.
Watching his dining choices evolve. From being overwhelmed with buffets, to leaving them behind for prime rib/lobster dinners, to helping me convince Barb that we really wanted to the Sterling Brunch at Bally's.
Watching him at 14 try to walk through the Rio to the elevators while looking at "nothing" (the skimpy cocktail waitress outfits). Actually this probably prepared him for our cruise the next year where we ended up on the topless section of Orient Beach in St. Martin.
Tom
mbjts
03-08-2006, 05:53 AM
However, I can understand the why's of bringing kids along on a Vegas vacation.
However, I was surprised and annoyed when I noticed throngs of kids passing through the casino floor to get to the elevators at MGM. I felt a bit uncomfortable being watched by kiddies while I played, and felt it awkward for kids being exposed to the cocktail folks too.
I wish every hotel had the casino floor set up separately from the walkways as they do in A.C. and most other casinos I've been too.
The hotel pools are usually big enough not to be too bothered by kids running around, but I just don't think the outside atmosphere of the strip is something I would want kids exposed to.
account_deleted
03-08-2006, 06:05 AM
:mad: :( :eek: NO
marmirdc
03-08-2006, 07:17 AM
Amen to both Yo Eleven and Eileen!. They both seem to have the reason for visiting Vegas down(with and without kids!)..
Mr. Keno
canthpern
03-08-2006, 08:25 AM
The kids don't bother me...it's their parents that let them
run unchecked that bother me.
Amen!
I live in the area. It drives me crazy when parents allow kids to run through the casinos. Not to mention it is against the law. But, I want to caution Vegas isn't all about the strip or downtown. There is way more to it then gambling and drinking. I still stand by it depends on what you want from your vacation and what your kids can tolerate.
AnnPedi614
03-08-2006, 03:23 PM
I am not opposed to kids in Vegas, however, I don't have children so bringing or not bringing children is not an issue for me. What I do have a problem with is kids out in their strollers at midnight while dad has a yard of margaritas in his hand, the kid is screaming and the parents just ignore it. If you want a family vacation have one, but be responsible, have your kids in bed at normal times. 1am is too late for any child to be up. This is just one example, however I have seen it quite a bit and don't understand it. Another thing that annoys me and this would be anywhere, is children that are just plain completely unruly. You know playing and banging into your chair or something and not apologizing, meanwhile Mom is sitting there ignoring what the child is doing. Like I said this is not something that only happens in Vegas. Honestly I do not understand why people think, they can take their kids places and not keep an eye on them. Simply teach your kids to apologize if they bang into someone or something. And I am not saying anyone here is like this, but it is usually a few bad kids that ruin it for all kids!! I guess I figure if you take your kids to Vegas bring them somewhere like Mirage, which has a great pool and the kids could have a blast during the day, or MGM. Bring them over to gameworks, take them to the Secret Garden, take them to a show take them to the bowling at alley at the Orleans, drive out to Red Rock Canyon, But whatever you do, don't have them out on the strip at 1am while you suck down a yard worth of beverages and the child is screaming in his stroller.
Disclaimer: I do not have children, I am not expert on children, nor do I dislike children. I think Kids are great, it is the parents that usually end up annoying me!
Kaytieeldr
03-08-2006, 06:04 PM
Think about it. If you vacationed twice a year, your spouse really doesn't gamble much and would prefer a beach, wouldn't you suck it up and take the kids to Vegas?
Honestly? Nope. Given your criteria, I'd go somewhere in the Caribbean that has beaches, kids activities AND casinos - make everyone happy.
As for kids in Vegas in general? Just don't seat one behind me on the plane.
TommiR
03-08-2006, 07:41 PM
While I have taken the family to vegas, it's just not the same for Dad. I don't get to have too much fun and the kids do too much growing up with all the adult activities.
I will take them back at 21
DevonVegas
03-09-2006, 12:36 PM
We took our three kids (15, 14 & 9) over with us from the UK - Our third visit their first. I did not want to take them as I enjoy 'Our time alone' but the wife is in charge :( So Christmas in Vegas it was - Before going I planned how to keep them occupied and still make sure we got to enjoy our holiday - It was fantastic - We did shows, the shops, the properties, the Dam, the rides. They were left in their rooms late at night to watch TV, play with there latest acquisitions etc - The wife and I were free to play.
As for taking them to Disney - I dont want to go there so why would I take them ? The thought of standing in queues all day just to see some giant rat or be scared half to death on some ride - No thanks !
And for the record my Kids had a great time and so did we. As others have said its not the Kids its the trailer trash parents who dont give a dam that are a problem.
rebagirl
03-09-2006, 04:38 PM
I believe Vegas is the one place that should be adults only. Too many "sinful" activities. Definitely no on the strollers.
batteryman
03-09-2006, 05:09 PM
I Vote Noooo
Hart'sinVegas
03-10-2006, 10:37 AM
I’m a single parent. When my son was 14 I took him to Vegas for the first time (subsequent visits at 15 and 16). Now, it all has to do with the frame of mind you have for your trip. I don’t have much luck, so I’ve never been much of a gambler. With this in mind the trips were about bonding. What better place to male bond then Vegas! The first trip we stayed at the MGM, at that time it still had the theme park out back. The next two times we stayed at the Tropicana.
There is sooooo much to do in Vegas for kids (Adventure Dome, Luxor, Strat rides, Game Works, walking the Strip day or night, people (girl) watching, indoor skydiving and much much more). So, it can be done and a good time for all.
As far as late night fun for Dad (gambling) (donating to the Vegas economy), I just made sure we passed several SLAPPERS (collected their all-star trading cards). Made sure I gave him the “This is legal to pass these out, but not legal to take advantage of women” speech. Returned to the room about 11pm, leave him in the room with no cash (obvious reasons), and the remote.
I took him back for his 21st birthday, but this time I was the one left in the room with no cash (obvious reasons) and the remote.
redrose
03-10-2006, 02:11 PM
As you can see by my title, I'm adamantly opposed to kids in Vegas! I have kids and grandkids but, please, can't there be one place adults can go without little rugrats underfoot? Personally, I can't see that Vegas offers anything for children. Circus, Circus, Excaliber, etc. may offer kid-friendly options but they are still CASINOS. You want to go to Vegas, do the rest of us a favor and leave the kids at home!:o
Sharon
03-10-2006, 02:36 PM
Two years ago we took our 22 year old son to Vegas for his first time for his Birthday. We have gone to Vegas for about 14 years and my kids couldn't wait until they were old enough to go with us. Unfortunately, Grandma also wanted to come and enjoy my son's first time in Vegas, which left me with no one to stay with my 14 year old. We decided to try and make the best of it and took our 14 year old along. (Boy, was he excited!) At that age, his eyes sure popped with the card slappers, half naked dancers and cocktail waitresses. We all had to take turns taking him to the pool in the morning and then walking him through casino after casino and not stopping until we hit an arcade. Being the Mom, I was stuck with him most of the time and only got to enjoy a couple hours every evening gambling with my other son. I promised myself after that experience that I would never take my youngest again until he was old enough to gamble. Vegas is NOT a "family" place for kids.:(
Steve
03-10-2006, 02:59 PM
I just wanted a give PROPS to all our members for the courtesy shown in posting their opininos in this Topic Of The Week category. I debated whether to do this topic or not as it might have incited some off-color replys. But as usual, our members showed why this is the "friendliest forum on the Internet" but their courteous posts.
BRAVO !!!!!!!
Steve
Lori R
03-10-2006, 03:48 PM
I thought of one more thing that should be mentioned. Pursuant to the comments that children are wandering on the outskirts of the casino while their parents gamble, I would like to remind everyone of a sad fact.
Back in 1997, a 7 year old girl, named Sherrice Iverson, was at Primadonna (now the Primm Valley Resort) at Stateline, NV (now Primm) with her father. While her father gambled, Sherrice went to the restroom. She was followed into the restroom, sexually assaulted and murdered.
DevonVegas
03-11-2006, 08:24 AM
Sadly that kind of thing can happen anywhere - In the news this week here in the UK an 11 year old was raped in the toilets of a supermarket while her mother shopped.
Its a mad world
lolet
03-11-2006, 10:05 AM
Then "Topic Of The Week" is:
How do you feel about kids in Las Vegas? You can give the pros and the cons.
I think Vegas is a playground for big kids and should stay that way. I have seen parents draging screeming bawling kids down the street at 3 am and I don't think this is appropriate any where, especially in Vegas.
Kids don't belong in the Sin City........
bluestreak
03-11-2006, 04:42 PM
Two summers ago I took my 17 year old son to Vegas for a two nighter. We went bowling twice (Sams and Texas Station). Stayed at MSS. We wore out the Simpsons Pinball machine at the Vega Club. He didn't realize what a wizard the old man was knocking around the silver ball.
Our best time was at the Golden Gate. The fortune cookie gal was out at dinner time. He scored his first comp on the fortune. The free soda with purchase. We did the shrimp cocktails and a sandwich waiting for the piano player.
We snagged seats right by the piano. A gal came over and started polishing up the Grand, taking her time. Finally she sat down and started playing. We hung around for the whole set.
I got enough gambling in the mornings, while he slept in, to keep my status. We also did the Mono-rail from Sahara to MGM and had lunch at the Brew Pub in Monte Carlo. I could have a beer since I had a driver...Sahara to MSS.
But next trip he will be old enough about 20 months.
JLS123
03-12-2006, 08:05 AM
It depends on what you go to vegas to do. If you are going to gamble and drink - leave the kids at home. I took my kids when they were ages 8 and 12 and they had a great time. We enjoyed visting the different hotels, eating at Rainforest cafe, riding the virtual ride at the Luxor, shopping, pool, arcade at the hotel, the M&M and Coke store. We took them to see EXF Alive when it was there and they loved it. Our entire experience was wonderful and my kids keep asking to go back. This year they are 12 and 16 and we are going again and are going to hit some of the things we did not do last time like the Star Trek experience, going up to the top of the Paris tower, see the Danny Gans show eat at Planet Hollywood etc...
mom2244
03-12-2006, 10:33 AM
I believe strongly that LV is NO PLACE FOR KIDS!!! We have four children and during their growing up years, we vacationed at Disneyland, DisneyWorld, saw the sights of the Grand Canyon, Niagra Falls, Washington DC, Mount Rushmore, Yellowstone -- well, you get the message -- we did "family vacations" that would hold their interest. Now that the children are grown, it is "our time" and we LOVE Las Vegas. It is such a joy not to have to worry about anything except the next casino we are going to visit and where we will be dining. It is a shame to see families with small children in tow walking down the strip, especially in the late night hours when these children s/b sleeping. Trying to make LV a family-friendly place has failed and the sooner parents realize this, the sooner it will be a more joyful experience for everyone. Unfortunately, parents who take their children to LV probably won't even read the comments in this forum - so I guess we are all just "preaching to the choir."
cyngia
03-17-2006, 01:35 PM
This was a couple of years ago so I don't remember the casino. We came down some stairs and there were 3 children sitting at the bottom of the stairs. One was leaning up against the wall the other was asleep on her lap and the third child was wimpering. Security showed up and came for them.
Another time in Las Vegas when we stayed at the Stratosphere. It was about 4am we were awakened to yelling and banging on a door. Then someone running down the hall yelling. My husband opened the door to see what was going on and that quick the security was there. It was some children making all the noise. They had been left alone in the room and were fighting. The couple in the next room told us the oldest must be about 11 or 12 years.
At the airport we were departing Las Vegas, a woman was at a slot machine, she was told by an attendent the children had to stay behind the line. A couple of times one of the children got close to the machine and the attendant had to remind the mother. Well as she played every once in a while she would look over and scream, "get back, sit down". These children sat on the floor behind the line and watched their mother play.
What a terrible trip for all of these children.
smmoo
03-18-2006, 07:08 PM
I have probably spent more time with children in Vegas than most people on this board. Before anyone gets apoplexic I will explain. The children I spend time with 2-3 times a year are already there because they live there. My oldest son move to Vegas in 1988, met and married a wonderful Vegas women and they have two children and one on the way. My two grandkids are a 9 year old boy and an 8 year old girl. My son works at a casino, my daughter-in-law teaches kindergarten. These children only go to the strip when family like us from out of town visit and want to take them there. Up to about age 5-6 there is absolutely nothing of interest on Las Vegas Blvd or downtown for them. We would take them to the local parks and push them on the swings when we visitied. After that age there are a very few things of interest, such as The Shark Reef Aquarium, The Dolphin Habitat, and the M&M store. At age 6 and up they like the arcades, although they are not allowed to play any games that involve guns, fighting or violence. They like
the games like skeeball and shooting hoops, and the one where you are on a motorcycle or skate board type device trying to win a race. They did enjoy the Rick Thomas afternoon magic show at that age and my grandson was the child that was picked to go up on the stage and help Rick with his levitating the assistant trick. I believe he was 5 or so then. At that same age we took them to Tournament of the Kings at Excalibur which mostly frightened them. Their Mom had to take great pains to explain it was just acting and no one was actually getting hurt. I think children from 10 to 18 or so would enjoy some of the shows, arcades and the other things I have mentioned as a one time deal. Everything of interest to that age group could be seen in a few days and very few of these attractions are something that would hold anyone’s attention enough that they would want to go back to them 4-5 or 6 times. I can not imagine any teen wanting to go back to Vegas over and over to ride the NYNY roller coaster, do the Star Trek thing, and the rides at the top of the Stratosphere. If the family is spending a limited time on the strip, maybe using it as a base of operations to go to Hoover Dam, Red Rock Canyon, Grand Canyon, and do things as a family like hiking, horse back riding, hot air balloon trips or white water rafting, it could be doable. As far as those that say their kids prefer Vegas to Disneyland- Sorry, I’m not buying it!!!- There just isn’t that much for kids to do. Would you go to Vegas 3 times a year and see the same 2-3 shows every time, play the same 2-3 machines, eat in the same 2-3 restaurants? My grandkids prefer to go to Lego Land, Magic Mountain, Disneyland or the San Diego Zoo. Those are places kids can go to more than once and be entertained without being subjected to the porn slappers and explicit ads on cabs. The only things my grandkids really enjoy on the strip, or anywhere, for that matter are the buffets LOL I think that if my teens said they preferred Vegas to other vacation spots I would wonder what they were doing late night if I was leaving them in the hotel to go gamble. I suspect they are sneaking out to see if they can get away with some more adult pursuits.
Efren112
03-21-2006, 06:56 AM
I understand most people saying Vegas is an "adult Disneyland" and all that, but when kids get in the way of someone enjoying their time in Vegas it is the parents' irresponsibility that is to blame, not the kids.
I have taken my kids to vegas twice (16, 13, and 10) and they liked our two Vegas trips more than the trip to Disneyworld. That was because I planned everything around their enjoyment. We took a plane ride to the Grand Canyon, Helicopter over Vegas at night, magic shows in the afternoon, Cirque shows at night, along with Celine, Lance Burton, Tournament of Kings, and even Delisco when he was playing at the Hilton. We ate at a few buffets for lunch and they loved it. We stayed at off strip Casinos for a few nights, but splurged on the Luxor because they wanted to stay in the "pyramid" for a few nights. I was very conscious of making sure we walked throught the casinos quickly to get out of the building as soon as possible.
Although Vegas is geared towards adults, there are things there you can't get at Disneyworld (glamorous hotels, great lights, great shows) which I think kids, with the proper supervision, can and should enjoy. Before going, I warned them about the solicitors on the street giving out escort pamphlets, so it wasn't a shock to them when we saw a few on the strip. Also, some people think that if a kid sees a breast, it is the end of the world. It's not.;)
Brett
03-26-2006, 08:09 PM
Well I have been to Vegas for many times and I am only 20. The first time I went to Vegas--I was only 16. People ask what could a person do in Vegas if they are not 21. The answer is many things. Vegas is home to the best of the best hotels, world famous resturants, shows second to none, and the very best selection of shopping any city can offer. However, when one takes people that are under 21 to Vegas they have to be very diliberate on what hotel they choose to stay at. I always stay at a hotel that has not a pool BUT a pool area (Bellagio, MB, Flamingo). Keep in mind, Vegas can recreate any place in the world with PERFECT WEATHER. After, crashing at the pool we go to eat and then to one of Vegas' shows. Vegas is fine for people under 21, but the vacation is tweeked to make it similiar to goin anywhere else, but in Vegas you get the best of the best.
vegasjules
03-26-2006, 10:13 PM
I think there are plenty of fun activities for the kids in Las Vegas. If I were to take my little guys, I would be a responsible parent, set a reasonable bed time, and have a long list of activities to pick from ... BUT ... There is no way I would be able to control what they were exposed to walking in and out of the casino or up and down the strip. I know that a parent can't always control what the kiddos are exposed to out in public, but in Vegas you know what is on billboards, cabs, etc. Why go out of your way to have your child exposed to so much adult oriented media? My vote is a big no!
tjdealer
03-31-2006, 09:38 PM
i just dont think LV is for kids. way too many adult activities and reminders all around,buses, taxis, billboards, hand outs, been to LV many times without kids, have taken my children at least 8 times to WDW, thats more than i have been to LV, there is a time and place for eveyone .
Alex accross the pond
04-02-2006, 07:07 AM
Leave the kids at home LV is a place for adults. I have brought up my children and have done all the children things and now is the time for me to enjoy all of the adult things without having to put up with other peoples kids. If parents want to take their children on holiday Florida, Europe or any where but Las Vegas. Bah Humbug
Jacqui, Duskette8
04-02-2006, 11:07 AM
I was just watching a TV programme called "Las Vegas As It Used to Be". The Host was Bobby Greco, a close friend of the Rat Pack. Bobby first played Las Vegas in 1952 and watched it grow to what it is today. I thought this direct quote was a fitting quote for this thread. He says:
"There isn't the same fun here now and if you look around ... children ... not there's anything wrong with children, I love kids I have 6 of my own, but this town was not meant for children. This town was meant for gamblers and for entertainers, for high rollers and for hookers, for people to come here and have fun. How do you find kids in a casino? Or kids just running around with theme parks in Las Vegas? That's unheard of. Let's bring back the old days.
lvfan
04-11-2006, 10:54 PM
Firmly believe that Las Vegas is not the place for children. For some young adults, even 21 might be pushing the appropriate age.:)
dog1dog2
06-20-2006, 09:17 PM
Las Vegas is a place for adults over the age of 21. Porn "slappers", folks getting hammered 24 hours a day, gambling, "adult" oriented clubs and shows make Vegas a no-go for kids.... and one of my favorite places in the world.:D Just about every bad experience I've had on my trips to LV has involved someone elses kids, screaming in restaurants, having strollers run over you at 3am, etc... Parents, esp of small children, should seek a better vacation destination. Teenagers will be frustrated at NOT being able to go anywhere, as I was on my first visit to LV at age 15 in '76. Seeing the fun and not being able to participate was a bummer and a half for me then. :eek:
This pretty much sums it up...Vegas is NOT a place where you should be taking your kids....I've seen so many young kids walking on the strip picking up the porn cards...makes me want to slap some parents...
Play2Win
06-21-2006, 01:19 PM
Whenever I go to Vegas, I always get ANOTHER chance to see my nephews from So. Cal. I'm close with my sister, and she is a great mother. No kids in Vegas would mean two less times I would see them a year. So I am against the ban of children in Vegas, but I can understand why some aren't. (I make two trips to So. Cal a year also) (for those who may say go there instead)
OhioRon
06-24-2006, 03:15 PM
I have to disagree with the members say that Vegas is not for kids or leave the kids home. Let face it, there are plenty of things for the kids to do in Las Vegas.
Aside from the irresponsible parents that leave their kids unnatended, they really aren't that much of a bother. Eileen's kids love everything about Las Vegas. They have seen just about all the family oriented shows and love the buffets. They talk about where they will stay next and what shows they want to see.
I may be in the minority but the kids can have as good of a time as the ADULT kids. It all comes down to parental responsibility.
Steve
I guess that we are not saying that some kids won't have a good time, we are saying that we don't want to have to deal with other people's kids on our adult vacation. Try to see it from the majority opinion.
Boston_Bill
06-25-2006, 06:58 AM
I hate to sound like a cranky old man but I hate seeing kids in Las Vegas. I would never bring any kid under 18 there.
I hated the fact that they thought it would be a good idea to make Las Vegas a family destination.
CeeJayRocker
06-25-2006, 08:38 AM
It's disheartening to see a family pushing a stroller downtown or on the Strip or through a casino at midnight. I know that you can't always leave your kids when you go on vacation, and it's impossible to shelter them until they're 28, but good god, can't you go to Knot's Berry Farm or Disney?
Steve
06-25-2006, 01:50 PM
I have been keeping up to date on this thread and the thing that just doesn't seem right is how members are judging what other people do. We should not fault or criticize what another person does, it's not our problem.
The bottom line is if the parents are responsible parents then there is no reason why a family can't enjoy Las Vegas. Eileen is leaving with the kids
(14 and 16) tomorrow (June 26th) and they can't wait to go.
Steve
Boston_Bill
06-27-2006, 08:17 AM
I have been keeping up to date on this thread and the thing that just doesn't seem right is how members are judging what other people do. We should not fault or criticize what another person does, it's not our problem.
The bottom line is if the parents are responsible parents then there is no reason why a family can't enjoy Las Vegas. Eileen is leaving with the kids
(14 and 16) tomorrow (June 26th) and they can't wait to go.
Steve
I know this group has been very good about not getting into arguments or cheap shots but I dont think you can have a topic like this and not judge what other people do. Sorry I don't like seeing kids under 16 walking the Strip when they should be in school.
This thread would be incredibly boring if we just gave yes or no replies.
barfar1
06-27-2006, 08:45 AM
I have been keeping up to date on this thread and the thing that just doesn't seem right is how members are judging what other people do. We should not fault or criticize what another person does, it's not our problem.
The bottom line is if the parents are responsible parents then there is no reason why a family can't enjoy Las Vegas. Eileen is leaving with the kids
(14 and 16) tomorrow (June 26th) and they can't wait to go.
Steve
I agree with Steve on this one. A group of us went out several years ago and brought our kids that ranged from 14-18 years old (My daughter was 18). Each parent took turns chaperoning the kids during the day. At night they stayed in one room with snacks, pizza, movies. They knew the deal. Responsible parentsare the key words. I feel bad for the kids that are sitting on the floor outside casinos waiting for their parents and I wonder why anyone would want to bring small children to Vegas but it's not up to me to judge them.
Green Chip
06-27-2006, 09:24 AM
I have been keeping up to date on this thread and the thing that just doesn't seem right is how members are judging what other people do. We should not fault or criticize what another person does, it's not our problem.
The bottom line is if the parents are responsible parents then there is no reason why a family can't enjoy Las Vegas. Eileen is leaving with the kids
(14 and 16) tomorrow (June 26th) and they can't wait to go.
Steve
Just made our reservations for Fall Break. We gave our son the choice of going anywhere in the U.S. and Caribbean since he has not been able to go on the last two trips. He chose Vegas. Called my host and got connecting rooms. He will take a friend and they'll have their own room. During the day we will do the sightseeing stuff (for the umpteenth time) and night time will be for the wife and I. They'll watch movies and eat pizza. (And hopefully we'll win enough to pay for it;) )
We have done this a couple times in the past and not had a problem one. It's not just that the parents have to be responsible, but the kids aslo. If there were any doubt about him not behaving, he would not go. Period!
monsterpocket
06-27-2006, 11:13 AM
I have too young kids and we also have friends that live in Vegas. We have done Excaliber (the worst hotel in the world) and I would not stay on the strip with them again. Next trip I would stay at a small locals casino or an off strip noncasino property. My most likely choice will be Green Valley Ranch but if I can find a really nice property without a casino I will go that route. The strip is just too full of adult stuff for he kids. One note to Las Vegas in general there are kids who live in Vegas and visit vegas the hooker ads on taxis need to go.
Steve
06-27-2006, 11:45 AM
I know this group has been very good about not getting into arguments or cheap shots but I dont think you can have a topic like this and not judge what other people do. Sorry I don't like seeing kids under 16 walking the Strip when they should be in school.
This thread would be incredibly boring if we just gave yes or no replies.
I don't think there are any cheap shots at all. I think this has been an excellent Topic and our members have been honest with their answers and that's how it should be. It is my opinion the I as an individual should not condem someone just because I don't agree with them. I would not call them unfit parents just because they bring there kids to Vegas.
To be honest, I just don't see that many underage kids roaming the Strip alone. I do see them checking out the stores and the shops as tourists would do. Yes there are teenagers hanging out at a few locations but they are mainly locals.
I am one of those that believe Las Vegas is a great place to bring the entire family. But don't condem me for saying that.
Steve
Boston_Bill
06-27-2006, 09:44 PM
I don't think there are any cheap shots at all. I think this has been an excellent Topic and our members have been honest with their answers and that's how it should be. It is my opinion the I as an individual should not condem someone just because I don't agree with them. I would not call them unfit parents just because they bring there kids to Vegas.
To be honest, I just don't see that many underage kids roaming the Strip alone. I do see them checking out the stores and the shops as tourists would do. Yes there are teenagers hanging out at a few locations but they are mainly locals.
I am one of those that believe Las Vegas is a great place to bring the entire family. But don't condem me for saying that.
Steve
I think you may have misread my post. I never implied they were cheap shots. I was saying just the opposite about the folks in this group that everyone here is very reasonable.
I never condemed anyone. I offered my opinion which differs from yours. No problem.
Steve
06-28-2006, 03:30 AM
I think you may have misread my post. I never implied they were cheap shots. I was saying just the opposite about the folks in this group that everyone here is very reasonable.
I never condemed anyone. I offered my opinion which differs from yours. No problem.
My apologies, I did misread it. I also was not condeming you.
Steve
magicfish
07-05-2006, 10:38 PM
I would be lying if I said I don't mind kids everywhere in Vegas - esp. the strollers!
But to each his own....except.... I went to a show recently, and the comic saw a young child in one of the front rows - and had to rework his show - that's ridiculous - it was def. an adult oriented show, and the parents were crazy to bring the kid....ruined the act for everyone else in the audience!!!
By the way, I am both a mother and grandmother (of 3).
nswanzy
07-09-2006, 09:53 AM
Being Vegas regulars, I couldn't wait for my son to turn 21 so he could go with us....to my disappointment, he has no desire to go!:eek: Not a Gambler, not a show person, drinks very seldom, so he just feels like he wouldn't have a good time. I've tried to ploy him with an all expense paid, short trip with us, just to check it out and have a good time before Mom and Pop wither up with age. He's a hoot and a half, loves a fun time, but he just has no desire to go there....I hope someday he will oblige me!
That said, as a parent and Grandparent it sickens me to see babies (often under a year) in strollers, being rolled all over the strip or Freemont street at 1 or 2am. And believe me I have seen it often. A couple of years ago we did New Years Eve on the strip, and you guessed it, babies, strollers, and small kids among the quarter million people (most of whom were drinking heavily) on the streets at midnight.... AND, it was cold and misting rain! Some parents have all the brains!:mad:
CeeJayRocker
07-10-2006, 08:31 PM
.... I went to a show recently, and the comic saw a young child in one of the front rows - and had to rework his show ....ruined the act for everyone else in the audience!!!
. . . . How do you know the comic reworked his show? Had you seen the same comic before? Had you seen this show before? Did the comic announce to the audience . . . "Excuse me, ladies and gentlemen, there's a child in the front row, therefore I won't be as nasty as you expected" . . . ? Perhaps the comic wasn't using the words you thought he should, thus you assumed that the kid you saw influenced the show? . . . . Amazing . . . .
MHIROTSU
07-11-2006, 02:55 PM
Being Vegas regulars, I couldn't wait for my son to turn 21 so he could go with us....to my disappointment, he has no desire to go!:eek: Not a Gambler, not a show person, drinks very seldom, so he just feels like he wouldn't have a good time. I've tried to ploy him with an all expense paid, short trip with us, just to check it out and have a good time before Mom and Pop wither up with age. He's a hoot and a half, loves a fun time, but he just has no desire to go there....I hope someday he will oblige me!
I know many people like your son. However, I've found that once you get them to Las Vegas, something overcomes them and they have a real good time. But, I have a feeling that he just doesn't want to go with Mom and Dad (sorry, but he doesn't want Mom and Dad around when he's at the pool scoping out the young girls in their bikinis). If he has a girlfriend, tell his girlfriend that you want to take both of them to Las Vegas and how much she'll enjoy the shopping, etc. If he doesn't have a girlfriend, tell his friend (the one that would enjoy Las Vegas) that you'll take the two of them to Las Vegas, and proceed to tell the friend about the young girls in their bikinis and of the scantilly dressed young girls at the clubs. On the more risque side, tell them to go to the clubs where the women are sans clothing, and that you'll give your son and his friend as many dollar bills as they can stuff in their pockets. And also, that your son will have his own room so that Mom and Dad won't know what time he got to bed (if at all). And that you won't wake him up at 6AM for breakfast because that's about the time he's getting to bed (if at all).
Mike
James
07-11-2006, 04:19 PM
Being Vegas regulars, I couldn't wait for my son to turn 21 so he could go with us....to my disappointment, he has no desire to go!:eek: Not a Gambler, not a show person, drinks very seldom, so he just feels like he wouldn't have a good time. I've tried to ploy him with an all expense paid, short trip with us, just to check it out and have a good time before Mom and Pop wither up with age. He's a hoot and a half, loves a fun time, but he just has no desire to go there....I hope someday he will oblige me!
That said, as a parent and Grandparent it sickens me to see babies (often under a year) in strollers, being rolled all over the strip or Freemont street at 1 or 2am. And believe me I have seen it often. A couple of years ago we did New Years Eve on the strip, and you guessed it, babies, strollers, and small kids among the quarter million people (most of whom were drinking heavily) on the streets at midnight.... AND, it was cold and misting rain! Some parents have all the brains!:mad:
a mom who wants her son to drink and gamble.....my mom might want to negotiate a trade
iam4nd
07-11-2006, 04:56 PM
To CeeJayRocker
. . . How do you know the comic reworked his show? Had you seen the same comic before? Had you seen this show before? Did the comic announce to the audience . . . "Excuse me, ladies and gentlemen, there's a child in the front row, therefore I won't be as nasty as you expected" . . . ? Perhaps the comic wasn't using the words you thought he should, thus you assumed that the kid you saw influenced the show? . . . . Amazing . . . .
Actually we saw Brett Butler several years ago at the Riviera and she made a few references during the show about changing her material because of a youngster about 8 to 9 years old sitting a few seats to the right of us in the front row. She was clearly uncomfortable with it.
I would have to lay some blame both on her staff and the hotel management for allowing a child that young into the event and also some on the parents for bringing the child to a show that was pretty obviously meant for adults.:(
Steve
07-11-2006, 06:24 PM
To CeeJayRocker
I would have to lay some blame both on her staff and the hotel management for allowing a child that young into the event and also some on the parents for bringing the child to a show that was pretty obviously meant for adults.:(
I think something like this came up regarding The Amazing Johanthan about young children. Some rules state that minors will be allowed if accompanied bu parents. So I agree with your statement. I just don't know who should accept more of the blame but I am siding with the parents.
The only way to solve this is to make the adultish shows like gambling laws..ONLY 21 or over.
Steve
nswanzy
07-11-2006, 06:29 PM
a mom who wants her son to drink and gamble.....my mom might want to negotiate a trade
For JAMES:
There is NOTHING in my post that says I want my son to drink or gamble, and a trade is out of the question...
For Mike:
He has a wife of 8 years and a 5 year old son. They have been to the Bahamas, Hawaii, Florida, on cruises, and to Colorado with us, and we travel well together. My Grandson has gone on a few trips with us, but he spends time with the other Grandparents every so often, and a 2-3 night Vegas trip with no kids would be easy to arrange.
They ask where were going, and if it's anywhere but Vegas, they are glad to pay their own way and come along, but just have no desire to go to LV even on out tab......beats me, but thanks for trying!!
bethyo08
08-19-2006, 09:30 PM
Just not the right environment for kids---drinking, gambling and the infamous slapping of "escort cards" every 5 minutes while you are walking down the strip---plus the newspaper stands that exhibit something other then the USA Today. Vegas tried to go kid friendly several years back (my daughter did love the rides at MGM) but it can't compete with Mickeyland--nor should it try! Leave the kids at home---:)
Tweeets
08-21-2006, 02:52 PM
Just not the right environment for kids---drinking, gambling and the infamous slapping of "escort cards" every 5 minutes while you are walking down the strip---plus the newspaper stands that exhibit something other then the USA Today. Vegas tried to go kid friendly several years back my daughter did love the rides at MGM) but it can't compete with Mickeyland--nor should it try! Leave the kids at home---:)
And it seems it was successful. It's going to be more difficult to turn it around than it was to encourage kids in the first place. JMO
lillyplop
11-21-2006, 07:15 AM
My husband and I have been taking our son to Vegas for the past 8 years, since he was two. If you were to ask him where he wants to go next year, he will say Vegas everytime. He even prefers it to Florida.
He loves the MGM Lions and the arcade. He could float around their lazy river for ever. He thinks the shopping at Caesars plus the rides are brilliant. His favorite restaurant is the Hard Rock Cafe or the Rainforest Cafe!
Generally we stay by the pool during the early afternoon. Rides and shopping late afternoon early evening. Dinner. Then my husband and I take it in turns to go out while Christopher plays in an arcade or watches a film in our room.
Vegas is for adults, clearly but there is plenty to do for children. As parents we keep our son out of the casinos as much as possible.
Although we have been advised that the Bellagio is now not allowing children in their hotel unless they are staying there. Which is a shame because I love the Bellagio, but to ban kids is a bit extreme.
JMVegas5866
11-22-2006, 10:23 AM
Kids in Vegas... I'd say no. Not this day in age because most parents have that "who cares" attitude and if anything happens to their child they always make it the responsibilty of someone else just because they don't feel like taking for account their own responsibilities. Alot of people are unresponsible for their children and you can't be blind to it. I have seen it with my own eyes over and over again. I've seen this over and over again because I use to work for the Disney Store for 10 years. Parents would let their 10 y/o son or daughter roam the malls any which way and most of the time the parent was oblivious to where exactly their kid was. I've had parents send out mall security several times looking for their children just because they weren't being a responsible parent. When they finally figured out where the kid was at, then the parent puts full blame on the kid. I have had parents send their child into the Disney Store unattended as if we were some kind of daycare/drop off center for kids. Take those same families and put them in a Vegas vacation secenario. HAHAHA no way.
I've been to Vegas when I was 16. I went with my uncle and aunt and cousins. One cousin was 15 y/o, and the other 14 y/o at the time. My uncle gave my aunt a whole bunch of money for us to have a good time and my uncle sat in the casino all week. Luckily my family members are more responsible than most parents are with their kids this day in age. Me and my cousins were always with an adult (my aunt) at ALL times. Those kinds of good parents that take responsibility I have no problem with having them take kids to Vegas.
To the poster who stated the Bellagio was being too extreme by banning kids from their property, I disagree. The Bellagio is just being a responsible resort and laying down property rules.
To the posters who blame the people incharge of running Vegas Shows on wether it was or wasn't suitable for children is dopey. As a responsibile parent you should be able to decide what is appropriate and what is not for your child. Not leave it to someone else to do it for you all the time. Afterall, you as a parent took the responsibility of bringing a young kid to Vegas (a city of adult entertainment). It's really not that hard to make a responsible decision. Here are some examples: Blue Man group- appropriate, Circus DeSolei Beatles - appropriate, Bally's Jubilee 10pm toppless show - might not be appropriate, Bally's Jubilee 7pm non-toppless show - appropriate, Don Rickles (comedy) - might not be appropriate. Not too complicated to make a responsible decision.
fishbonesoup
11-29-2006, 07:01 PM
I grew up on the Midway at Circus Circus. (25 years ago). 2-3 times a year my sisters and I had a week to ourselves in Vegas. Absolutely LOVED Vegas. Learned a lot there. Fortunately, nothing ever happened.
Took my 2 oldest, 11 and 12 at the time, to Circus and let them wander around up there for an hour. Their mother and I were 'tracking' them from below the whole time. Being responsible parents, the kids were never left alone for a second but there were many instances where we were all uncomfortable due to some 'adult' situation.
That said, I feel kids should be left at home. It is an adult playground where adult things happen. If you gotta take the kids, take em to Disneyland. My kids loved Vegas but they'll have to wait to go back til they're 21.
Jringo
12-27-2006, 03:14 PM
vegas is NOT for kids and should not be..... it should be a escape for mom and dad. I see people come here with 3-4 small kids, each parent has their hands full. All the excitment, Mom and Dad wanting to take it all in, now add to this a couple kids "Mom,Dad, Mom Dad" and the stress level could reach the boiling point real fast. Unless you bring grandma to babysit You get no time together doing what You do in vegas ....
Jringo
01-06-2007, 05:21 PM
After living here 10 years I have often wondered..... whati s wrong with gambling if my kid can't stand next to me? I don't mean take them gambling and sit next to me or let them gamble.....but if it is legal enough to offer it for Us adults to take our money why can't I ,while walking thru a casino stop put a few quarters in and play a few hands without making my kid go stand by the wall? if it is that immoral why allow it at all?
livinthedream
01-07-2007, 08:18 AM
Can never understand why people get so upset about people taking kids to Vegas.It is their business.Worry about yourself and not other people.You would be offended if they commented on your life.Peace to all.
STR8 FLUSH
01-07-2007, 09:54 PM
We spent Xmas in Vegas 2 yrs ago. Me, my wife and 2 kids ages 5 and 7. We drove from Dallas. We wanted to explore the West and stay in Vegas over Xmas. We stayed at the Excalibur for 5 nites. We had a blast. This was the first time I have been to Vegas with children and it was no problem. My kids did not run thru the casino like little banshees or knock over any of the floral displays at the Bellagio. We went to Red Rock Canyon, Lake Mead, Hoover Dam, CC, Mt Charleston and the aquarium at MB(too many to list here). There are tons of things to do. Shopping at the M&M store and Build a Bear. My wife and I shared the nites staying with the kids. We would be together all day then at nite one of us would hit the casinos while the other stayed with the kids. The best part for my kids? We hired a Santa to bring them thier presents on Xmas Eve. Not a bad gig, he made $125 for 30-40 minutes of work. We were always with our kids except when one of us would leave to play. Excalibur is a awesome place to stay with your kids. So kids in Vegas? sure why not. Now small kids or babies on a airplane? NO!!!!!!:eek:
James
alsports2000
05-15-2007, 08:57 PM
Do you have sites or links for all the things kids can do in Vegas?? If so, please let me know. Thanks. AL.
It depends on what you want from your vacation. If you want to stay out late and gamble, leave the kids at home. If you want to hike, go to the dam etc....bring the kids. There are a lot of things off strip for the kids to do. There are a lot of things on strip for the kids to do and see too. Just do your homework on what is available and what your child can tolerate.
Flower_v
06-30-2007, 01:47 AM
I remember being one of those kids that were standing in a casino entry way in Reno because my parents and other elders didn't have the common decency follow proper casino etiquette. I remember feeling bored and embarressed. I feel if parents want a gambling trip, or staying out all night partying trip, then they shouldn't take the children.
This summer I'm going to Vegas with my spouse and our 9 year old daughter. Surprisingly, she wanted to go there more than we did. We're going to Disneyland, and then to Vegas. It'll be our second trip to Disneyland this year and our first trip to Vegas with her. She wanted to go to Vegas all the other times we've gone, but back then we didn't think it was a good idea....because we wanted to do the adult things. We're not interested in hitting the hottest clubs anymore or drinking to our hearts content, our gambling away our savings on this trip. We wanted to share some of the experiences we had the last times we went. The ones where we looked at each other and said that "our daughter would enjoy this".... the sights that people of all ages can enjoy. We will also visit family that live in Vegas and see her cousin who is around her age who regularly competes in bowling tournaments there..
We will be with her throughout...not once will she be sitting in a corner or a casino entry way bored as ever and embarressed. I've been carefully planning and researching and I know that we will all enjoy our vacation.
We're staying at the Wynn, of all places, because after our first stay, we can't stay anywhere else....when she heard about the great time we had there and all the amenities, and the pool, she's been wanting to see it for herself. She's tripping out over the tv in the bathroom.
We know her personality very well, of course, that we know she'll enjoy every part of our itinerary. We're going to watch "O" after having dinner at Sensi. One afternoon we'll be go swimming...hopefully my request for a cabana will be granted. We're planning to watch the Lake of Dreams light/watershow from the SW Steakhouse terrace. One night, we'll have dessert out on the Sugar & Ice patio with the views of the waterfalls. Of course we'll watch the dancing fountains @ Bellagio, go on the indoor gondola ride, do the Eiffel Tower Experience, the Adventuredome, Dolphins @ the Mirage, maybe see the lions at MGM. Maybe have dinner at Wing Lei to see if it's better than PF Changs. :) She's turning into quite the foodie, as she's no longer fond of McDonalds, and is wanting to try out dishes other than chicken fingers and fries and mac and cheese. I don't have to worry about her at dinner...she can appreciate gourmet dishes. She also will not be playing marco polo at the Wynn pool either. :) Though, my husband might try to...
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